Best line from Jon:
Does 8 years in the wilderness do real damage to science? You think about the Middle Ages.
Another interesting exchange, where Jon asks about skills needed to be a successful scientist:
Jon: I’ve never met a man of your stature as a scientist so well-versed in the bureacratic process. Is that part of being a scientist now? Do you have to also know how to navigate those waters?
Varmus: Look, I went to Washington as someone who had been a lab rat for 25 years […] and suddenly I had to run a big agency. You learn it. It’s like anything else.